What the fuck does "without preconditions" even mean?

[jackshoegazer]

In the Land O' Bush, you must meet certain conditions or we won't even talk to you. They are under some illusion that not talking to America is a punishment and that all of these "bad" countries are just jealously slavering for an opportunity to talk to us. So, if they meet these conditions, then we may talk.

For instance: "Hey, Eye-ran, git rid of your entire nuke-u-lar program We know it's for bombs, so hey, Eye-ran, git rid of it, or we won't even talk to you."

To which Iran says, "Excuse me, America, but our program is for nuclear energy, we are not making nuclear weapons."

To which we respond with our fingers in our ears, "Nannny-nanny-boo-boo, I can't hear you! Ditch your nuke-u-lar ambitions first and then we can talk about it."

"But it's for peaceful energy, not.."

"I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

That's preconditions. It's stupid and it doesn't work. It's the diplomatic equivalent of Cartman's "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

P.S. The Sarah Palin Disney Movie

Comments

[holographia.livejournal.com]

jeeesh, yeah every time they bring up the pre-conditions... like, are we going to solve anything by not talking to these people??

and oh my lordy that video is funny!!

[hellocthulhu.livejournal.com]

Exactly. It's a strategy based entirely on the idea that talking to the US is a great privilege, like being granted an audience with the king or something.

That said, I do kind of doubt that Iran's nuclear program is entirely peaceful.

[jackshoegazer.livejournal.com]

Oh, either do I, but we're never going to find out if we don't talk to them. If we were, oh, diplomatic, we could set up relations with them in which we express our worry, they give reassurances and oh, I don't know, set up UN inspectors to make sure. But we won't talk so we won't even know.

What always gets me is that the U.S. is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons against another nation and we expect the world to give up its nuclear ambitions and trust us as the sole-holder of nukes?

[hellocthulhu.livejournal.com]

That's the rock-and-a-hard-place of nukes. We have absolutely no moral position from which to tell other countries "no nukes for you"... yet it seems pretty undeniable that countries like Iran and North Korea having nukes could be a very bad thing, much moreso than, say, Sweden and Canada.

[jackshoegazer.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

It would also help if the Bush Administration would stop outing undercover CIA agents whose jobs are to prevent nuclear proliferation.

[abmann.livejournal.com]

OMFG YES

. We'll totally talk to you if you meet all our demands so we don't have to talk to you.

When did Washington turn into Myspace?

[kiwikat.livejournal.com]

OBAMA WOULD JUST GO INTO IRAN NAKED AND START HANDING OUT GUNS AND AMMO TO EVERYONE, THEN HE WOULD POO ON THE KORAN. I'M PRETTY SURE. THAT IS NOT WISE GOVERNMENT, HE IS A DANGEROUSLY INEXPERIENCED MAN.

[jackshoegazer.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure on Day One, they give Obama a nice little book with all the rules. Rule #8 is Don't Poo on the Koran. Whereas John McCain is older than written language and thus couldn't even read the rule book.

[katachthonios.livejournal.com]

When Obama proposes using Parley before Big-Ba-Da-Boom, he's a wet-behind-the-ears n00b.

When he mentions offering Pakistan the back of his hand if they don't cooperate, he's a warmongering bellicant.


I'm going to have a fucking aneurysm.

[jackshoegazer.livejournal.com]

Most voters can't hold two opposing ideas in their heads, so they don't even have the capacity to understand there's something wrong there and that's what I've noticed most hard-Righties count on.

A friend was telling me about getting cornered at a grocery store by a McCain supporter who went off about how Obama wants to take troops from Iraq and send them to Afghanistan so we can attack Israel but Obama doesn't even support the troops and how Obama is going to overturn Roe V Wade and -AND- make third-trimester abortions legal. Hello? WTF, everybody?!?!

[katachthonios.livejournal.com]

The only thing I can tell these types is to write in Ron Paul.