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Joe Biden was great and on-point, very specific and substantiative. He seemed to have McCain's record memorized down to the last detail.

Palin was fake-folksy and kept winking at the camera. WTF was that about? She didn't answer questions and kept reverting back to talking points when cornered, especially on energy independence. She didn't have a verbial meltdown like the Couric interview, so I suppose that's a plus for her. But this whole new Republican meme about Dems looking backward when comparing Bush/McCain policies is ridiculous. If McPalin policies were different than Bush policies I could understand it, but the policies are the same, and if they haven't worked for the past eight years, tey're not going to work this time, even if you wink at us.

So, let's take a look at some numbers:

CNN/Opinion Research: Biden 51 Palin 36

CBS: Biden 46 Palin 21

Fox: Biden 61 Palin 39

MSNBC: Biden 53 Palin 37

The CBS poll of undecideds had Biden winning the debate 46-21, with 33 percent calling it a tie. 18% now say they will vote Obama/Biden, 10% now say McCain/Palin.

Biden won the CNN and CBS focus groups. Palin won the Luntz focus group. The candidates tied in the Halperin focus group.

However, in the all-important independent voter's opinion, Biden won by a huge margin. Here, there are numbers broken down by topic, and Independents decided Biden did best.

I agree.

Date: 2008-10-03 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwikat.livejournal.com
I was drawing pictures so I didn't see the wink. Dammit!

Anyway, I had never heard Biden speak much before, that man is awesome. I find her faux folksiness extremely grating. She says Nuke-you-lar just like Bush. I could go on, but it's early and there's no sense working myself into a rage already.

Date: 2008-10-03 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alovelyfeather.livejournal.com
Flippin awesome.

Date: 2008-10-03 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brdgt.livejournal.com
You would be a great statistician in a [livejournal.com profile] brdgt/[livejournal.com profile] antarcticlust administration ;)

Date: 2008-10-05 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com
A dream come true!

Date: 2008-10-03 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hello-momma.livejournal.com
she talks like a a Li'l Abner waitress.

Date: 2008-10-05 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com
The last thing we need is another idiot in the White House who can't say NUKE-LEE-AR or really enunciate well at all. Fuck, woman, where'd all your G's go?

Date: 2008-10-03 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonbeast.livejournal.com
I thought Palin sounded sooo rehearsed and like she was just reciting stuff. Which she was. And I don't get the Republicans going after Dems for "looking backwards" at the Bush administration. Obama's about change, and he has to say what he's changing from. And the Bush policies affect us all today, it's not like he was president years ago.

Date: 2008-10-03 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyskkvinna.livejournal.com
I was already a Biden fan, but last night really reinforced it.

Date: 2008-10-03 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackdreams.livejournal.com
My god, that drove me nuts too. She basically had to flirt with the camera to try and distract from her not answering questions.
Which, I didn't see the Couric Interview, and then after that and watching the debate, the "Interview with Palin" entry is even more hilarious because, well, it's not much of an exaggeration.

re: I'll wink atcha if I don't know tha answer!

Date: 2008-10-03 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castleclear.livejournal.com
Yes, she didn't implode on stage the way she did in the Katie Courek and Charles Gibson interviews; however, her non-answers are telling. She responded often with generalities, followed by more generalizations, would shift (read: leap) to something unrelated, then launch into a pre-rehearsed sound bite. She did lots of "selling", which is where the winking and folksiness came in. At times I thought she should be holding pom-poms or perhaps a special can of red-white-and-blue Campbell's soup. I thought Palin focused primarily on appearing "like-able" and "appealing" while delivering Republican rhetoric, the few times she directly answered questions (e.g., gay marriage, the office of the VP), I found her answers disturbing. Due to the lack of follow-up questions, no one could ask her exactly how cutting taxes (to corporations and the wealthy) and cutting gov't spending would result in more (and better) jobs and an improved economy. Perhaps you saw this yesterday(?): http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/2/no_debate_how_the_republican_and

Date: 2008-10-03 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackbuttoneyes.livejournal.com
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Date: 2008-10-03 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] explodingalice.livejournal.com
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Date: 2008-10-04 09:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-10-06 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com
I should have ignored you the second time too. :P

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