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jackshoegazer ([personal profile] jackshoegazer) wrote2005-08-14 03:33 pm
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I hear Saturn's coming in of the noon train and he'll be gunnin' for you...

While talking with a friend from Minneapolis, whose Saturn returns in September, I realised that my Saturn is coming back in just under a year. This means that I need to use this year very wisely to get things in order, because this year, things will begin to crystalise and focus. I'd rather have this be a year of structuring and progression than a year of death and destruction.

Is it wrong that I was born in and have always lived in America, yet I have an innate tendency to spell words with the British 's' instead of a 'z'? I don't mean to exclude 'z'; I feel it's a deprived letter and should be used more. Why do I do this?!

[identity profile] violet-meeks.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I tend to use the English U. Like Colour.

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, me too! Colour, behaviour, etc... I even say advertisment instead of 'advertize-ment'.

[identity profile] violet-meeks.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Or vase as vaze. I also extend a lot of my vowles while I'm speaking a lot of times. Too many years of voice lessons.

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
My auditory sense of aesthetics cringes when I hear the typical American barking. It's the speaking equivalent of eating with your mouth open :P Blech!

Oh, and (hmm, how to type this..) aye-ther instead of E-ther (for the word 'either'.)

[identity profile] matt120.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Never mind that... Just keep working on your Ebonics, Whitebouy.

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Hai, g-skillet, I is already flowin' wit mad skillz in da Ebonics arena, knowhutimsayin', boi?

[identity profile] bencollier.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I read that Americans anglicise words as a symptom of feelings of cultural inferiority.

:)

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You have to HAVE a culture first in order to have it be inferior. :)

[identity profile] bencollier.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"What's the difference between America and a Yogurt?

A Yogurt has a culture!"

A French Joke

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-14 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, nice :) I'm going to remember that one. Next time someone tries to bring up American Culture, I can say, Yogurt has more culture that America. And being here, I can claim to be an authority on the issue :P

[identity profile] gutzilla.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
American culture is like a soup that has not yet developed a skin.

I'm going to pretend that meant something until people nod their heads and agree.

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's terribly apropos!

[identity profile] gutzilla.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent.

[identity profile] book-of-lies777.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I have felt the same way... I grew up a poor white kid in Oklahoma, so I never had any sense of "culture" until I found out I have Romani("gypsy") blood. Talk about "culture shock"! hehehe

I have been to Saudi Arabia during my military career, and let me say this: "I don't wanna go back!"


I've seriously contemplated moving to England though...

[identity profile] niamh04.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I have a tendency to interchange using either "s" or "z" (like realised or realized). Both are correct, so I don't worry too much about it.

Memories-memories. I was pregnant during my Saturn return. Then toss in a retrograde, had my little one, so it was definitely an important time when it occured, which means like my mother and I, my daughter has Saturn in Aries too. Ouch!

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I have Saturn in Leo which is a bad place for it, in general, though I try to think of it as a crystalising force in a creative and dynamic way:P

[identity profile] niamh04.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Saturn in Leo used to be considered a detriment by the ancients. Course, Libra as a constellation didn't exist, Saturn ruled both Cap and Aquarius. But Libra became a sign between Virgo and Scorpio, much later, Uranus was discovered, and assigned to Aquarius. Also, because some astrologers consider Saturn and Mars to be malefic (and connected in some form), it only made sense for astrologers to give the status of the "fall" to Aries, and free Leo of being seen as such. Additionally did this, because Libra is fitting in being exhalted with Saturn, for Libra is associated with justice and fairness.

Some astrologers still believe Saturn in Leo has issues, esp. because its associated with certain politicans and leaders. However, the main issue with Saturn in Leo -- if the creative outlet is expressed, if the individual can have some element of control over their creative expression, can be fine.

Personally, I believe we give Saturn too bad of a rap at times. Yes, he can be an asshole. Yes, these can be severe energies which are stressful. Nobody likes having limitations imposed on them. But they do like some form of foundation around them, or else they'd be completely lost, and while saturn may not be optimistic, it can be predictable, and I'll tell ya, its the one planet you can always count on, making his presence known.

[identity profile] bencollier.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting.

I have Mars conjunct Saturn in Leo.

Which is delightful.

[identity profile] taeli.livejournal.com 2005-08-15 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
How does one figure out when their Saturn return is?