God ain't talkin' no shit.

[jackshoegazer]

I saw one of those annoying God Hates Fags signs.  It had a Biblical footnote, Romans 9:13.  I decided to see where exactly in the Bible this fool claims God declared his hatred for homosexuals.  Let me read to you Romans 9:13:

"As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

So that's God talking there.  And boy, he *hates* Esau.  Man, Esau must have totally fucked a bunch of dudes!  Uh, no.  There is nothing in the story of Esau about homosexuality at all.  Not even the slightest whiff of man-on-man action.  Esau married women and had children.  Esau was tricked by Jacob into giving up his birthright as the eldest son for some lentils.  He was kind of sad, not too bright, and apparently pretty hungry.

Therefore, can anyone here explain to me why that Biblical passage was used in a message of hate, how that passage and the story of Esau has anything to do with hating homosexuality?  Yeah, didn't think so.

Comments

[pretzelcoatl.livejournal.com]

Blaaaaaaargh.

The good news is that since the news about Prop. 8 and the anger resulting from it is also motivating less crazy Christians to speak out even more against homophobia and for gay marriage. Let's hope this continues.

[castleclear.livejournal.com]

There are a number of left-wing Christians who, for example, are in favor of socialism. Recently, a group wrote an open letter to other (as in right-wing) Christians saying let's ignore abortion for the moment in favor on concentrating on ending poverty. A number of Christians support gay marriage. A number of Christians are gay. It's the right-wing zealots we have to watch out for.

[jackshoegazer.livejournal.com]

That's why I love the word "sombunal" when talking about a group, which was coined to mead some-but-not-all, because it's much more accurate. For instance, it's better to say sombunal Christians are hateful bigots, rather than using merely Christians which is inaccurate and leads to hurt feelings and the like.

Re: sombunal Christians

[castleclear.livejournal.com]

Now that's interesting terminology. "Sleep-walking" certainly describes those who don't evaluate using critical thinking. I like it! And your valid points about accuracy and hurt feelings, hence improved communication. Non-somnabulistic Christian friends know the score and are often allies as well as being well-developed people. I see that I'm confusing terms, that "sombunal/sombunall" means "some but not all" as coined by Robert Anton Wilson as per http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sombunall